Tuesday, September 20, 2022

AmibaCom/MDS Amiba Gateways Voicemail Menu

I created all these docs for companies, so why not share them?

 Codes Dialed While Connected to Voicemail (Voice Menus i.e. *99)

1 To Listen to New Messages (Played oldest first)

1. To replay Message

2. To Delete Message

3. To Play Next Message

4. Followed by extension number To Forward Message

5. To dial the caller who placed the Message

*. To Return to the Main Menu

2 To Listen to Saved Messages (Played oldest first)

1. To replay Message

2. To Delete Message

3. To Play Next Message

4. Followed by extension number To Forward Message

5. To Return a Call to the CLI of the Message

*. To Return to the Main Menu

3 To enter Voicemail Setup

1. To play your current Welcome Message

2. To Record a Welcome Message (followed by # to end recording or hang-up)

3. To Delete your current Welcome Message

*. To Return to the Main Menu


4 To Change Your Extension’s Forwarding Settings

1. To Disable Forwarding

2. To Forward to voicemail

3. To Forward to the number you are calling from

4. To Forward to any number. Dial the number followed by # (you need to add the external number prefix i.e. 9)

*. To Return to the Main Menu

6 (Followed by AA number) to enter Auto Attendant record Setup

(You need to be an operator to do this)

1. To play your current Welcome Message

2. To Record a Welcome Message (followed by # to end recording or hang-up)

3. To Delete your current Welcome Message

*. To Return to the Main Menu




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Tuesday, August 30, 2022

Iodine/Iodide Supplementation

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Contents

1.

Forms of Iodine ................................................................................................................... 3

2.

How much Iodine do I need to take? .................................................................................. 3

3.

Supporting Nutrients for taking Iodine ............................................................................... 4

4.

Why do we take these supplements as part of the protocol? ........................................... 5

5.

When should I take my supplements? Do I need to space them apart? ........................... 6

6.

Does iodine destroy good bacteria? ................................................................................... 6

7.

How long should I take Iodine? .......................................................................................... 6

8.

Where can I buy non-liquid Lugol’s products? ................................................................... 7

9.

What is the Salt Loading Protocol? ..................................................................................... 7

10.

What are the sources of Bromide? ..................................................................................... 7

11.

Validity of the Iodine Patch Test ......................................................................................... 8

12.

My ferritin dropped while on Iodine. ................................................................................. 8

13.

I am gaining weight since starting Iodine. .......................................................................... 8

14.

Iodine Supplementing & Mercury Filings ........................................................................... 8

15.

I have Hashimotos. Can I take Iodine? ............................................................................... 8

16.

Why does iodine work for Hashimotos? ........................................................................... 10

17.

My TSH went up on Iodine................................................................................................ 11

18.

I have adrenal fatigue. Can I take Iodine?........................................................................ 11

19.

I have breast cancer and would like to learn more about using Iodine. .......................... 11

20.

Bromide Toxicity and Iodine Loading Test. ....................................................................... 11

21.

Ordering a 24 hour Iodine Loading Test with Bromide Levels. ......................................... 12

22.

Recommended Reading. ................................................................................................... 13

23.

Detoxification .................................................................................................................... 14

24.

Importance of Healthy Gut Flora ...................................................................................... 19

25.

Detox Strategies ................................................................................................................ 19

26.

Final thoughts as it relates to Iodine Supplementing Detox….. ........................................ 21

27.

INDEX ................................................................................................................................ 22

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**NOTE: This document is for educational purposes only. It is not meant to treat or diagnose any medical

condition. Please seek the help of a qualified medical practitioner for any medical issues.

1.

Forms of Iodine

a.

Nascent (aka Magnascent, Detoxified or Atomidine) – Based on Edgar Cayce’s

“energized” iodine. The iodine is reduced to a 1% concentration in 100% ethyl alcohol

and electro-magnetically transmuted (while being suspended in a wet bath containing a

mild acid solution) into the Atomic state. 1 drop = 150 mcg or .150 mg of Iodine. This

form will not saturate body tissues and has not been proven to detox halides such as

bromide, fluoride, chloride, and mercury, as other forms have.

b.

Lugol’s Formula – This is an iodine formula of Iodine and Potassium Iodide (5% Iodine /

10% Potassium Iodide in water). Two drops of this 5% solution contains 5 mg of iodine

and 7.5 mg of iodide – or commonly called 12.5 mg in tablet forms. Lugol’s is supplied

in milligram (mg) amounts vs other forms that are in micro gram amounts. This is the

preferred form of iodine supplementation as the body needs both forms of this nutrient.

The thyroid needs iodide and the breasts and prostate need iodine. Many other

tissues in the body can concentrate either form. These include glands like the salivary,

liver, spleen, kidneys and intestines.

c.

KELP 

While kelp does contain iodine it is not as high as you might be led to believe.

Kelp is a plant that is designed to clean toxins from the sea. Our oceans are getting

more and more contaminated with dumping from pharmaceutical and industrial

processing companies along with the Fukushima disaster which dumped large amounts

of toxic radioactive material into the ocean. Kelp has been tested and found to be high

in arsenic. For those concerned with health this is not a viable option.

It is recommended that the user consume Lugol’s formula. This is because it offers the

best solution for tissue saturation. When you consider the usage of iodine for thyroid

hormone creation plus halide protection, the recommended 150 mcg amount by the

RDA falls pathetically short. The body is reported to store 1,500 mgs of iodine in total.

The thyroid gland stores 50 mgs. Twenty percent of the total iodine is held in the skin.

Approximately 32% of iodine is stored in the muscles. This is why it is believed that

there are strong ties to fibromyalgia pain when the patient is iodine deficient.

**NOT GOOD FORMS**

2.

How much Iodine do I need to take?

There are no set amounts that can be given as a blanket recommendation. Everyone needs

different amounts based on their body’s ability to utilize the nutrients as well as the level of

toxic halide exposure they have each day. If you are dealing with a severe health condition then

your dosages will need to be higher than those trying to maintain good health.

a.

Maintenance – It was once believed that a good maintenance dose is 25 mgs per day.

But with more information being gained about the exposures to halides bombarding our

systems (bromides, fluorides, chlorine) as well as mercury, etc., maintenance of health

may require higher doses of iodine. The iodine doctors are now beginning to believe

that 50 mgs may be the minimum required dose. Many iodine group members are

finding that dosages of 100 mgs cause them to feel the best. While this is anecdotal

information it is interesting to note.

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b.

Pregnancy / Lactation – Iodine is important for both the mother and the baby. Children

who do not receive enough iodine in the womb while developing can develop cretinism.

Because iodine has the ability to push toxins out of the body (bromide, fluoride,

mercury, and lead) it is not desirable to push this to the blood stream so that it crosses

the placenta to the baby. During the 2007 Iodine Conference, the doctors discussed this

issue. Their final conclusion was to recommend that iodine be supplemented at 12.5

mgs per day if no prior supplementing / detoxing has been done before getting

pregnant. This applies to starting during lactation as well. One thing to note is that the

iodine will change the taste of the milk so if the baby refuses the breast, back the

dosage down and add slowly so that they can get used to the taste. If there is concern

over bromide toxicity then a blood test may be performed to test for circulating levels.

c.

Cancer – Cancer is a result of mutated cells. Iodine is absolutely critical for something

called the P53 gene which is known as the “keeper of the genetic code”. Without iodine

and selenium it will not function correctly to eliminate abnormal cells from the body

such as cancer. Cancer patients have taken anywhere from 50 – 300 mgs / day

successfully. Here is a good article on how P53 works with the mdm2 in cancer

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/10/071015215101.htm If you would like

additional information on the P53 and Iodine see the Minerals for the Genetic Code

book.

d.

Children – These are the levels that I gave my children at the various ages. This is not

meant to be a recommendation but a guideline for what was safe for my children and

others I have been in contact with. General guidelines suggest .08 mg x the weight of

the child but is dependent on the health condition.

i.

Up to 3 years – 3 drops of Detoxified Iodine (www.iodinesource.com) per day or

take 1 drop of 5% Lugol’s solution in water and then take ½ of the water and

give it to the child. This results in 3.125 mgs / dose.

ii.

3yrs to 5 yrs – 6.25 mgs of Iodoral or 1 drop 5% Lugols Solution(6.25 mgs)

iii.

5 yrs to 9 yrs – 12.5 mgs of Iodoral or 2 drops 5% Lugols Solution (12.5 mgs)

iv.

9 yrs to 16 yrs – 25 mgs of Iodoral or 4 drops 5% Lugols Solution (25 mgs)

v.

16 yrs and up – will depend on health issues, weight, etc and cannot be given in

generalities. By this point their body is adult size. Dosages range from 12.5 mgs

to 300 mgs.

3.

Supporting Nutrients for taking Iodine

These nutrients are required to support the body while supplementing with iodine.

Adult Supporting Nutrients

a.

Vitamin C – 2,000 – 5,000 mgs / day

b.

Selenium – 200 – 400 mcg / day

c.

Unrefined salt (Celtic) – ½ tsp / day – supports adrenals, binds to bromide and assists in

removal, supports symporters (sodium iodine symporters or NIS)

d.

Magnesium – 200 - 400 mgs / day

e.

Optional – ATP CoFactors (B2/B3 combo) -1 tablet 2x / day (Why this is optional

discussed later on in this document).

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Children Supporting Nutrients

(based on my children)

f.

Vitamin C – 1,000 mgs per day. We used a children’s chewable.

g.

Magnesium – we did not supplement specifically with it but used a good professional

grade multivitamin.

h.

Selenium – 100 mcg – 3x / week. I purchased capsules and emptied them into

applesauce.

i.

Unrefined Salt – We use Celtic and Redmond Real Salt. I placed course ground salt and

let my children eat it out of the cups and put on their food at will.

4.

Why do we take these supplements as part of the protocol?

a.

Vitamin C – This nutrient is high in antioxidants and works to buffer the oxidation

caused by the detoxing of halides from the cells. Vitamin C is also needed by the

symporters and helps to support them in their healing process which allows iodine to

more readily enter the cells. See https://optimox.com/pics/Iodine/IOD-11/IOD_11.htm

Evidence that the administration of Vitamin C improves a defective cellular transport

mechanism for iodine: A Case Report for additional information.

b.

Selenium – Selenium is used by the thyroid in the hormone creation process. There is a

selenium containing enzyme glutathione peroxidase which functions to keep the

hydrogen peroxide reduced to H2O after it converts iodide to iodine. This keeps H2O2

from damaging the tissues. When selenium is deficient this process of defense is

impaired. This can cause oxidative damage to TPO which could be the start of

autoimmune thyroiditis.

Selenium is also contained in iodothyronine deiodinase. This is an enzyme that is

responsible for the conversion of T4 to T3 (inactive to active hormone). A deficiency in

selenium would decrease this conversion activity.

Selenium is also needed for glutathione production in the liver which assist with

detoxification of the body.

c.

Magnesium – This nutrient works as a counter to excess calcium in the cells. When

there is excess, the oxidation process can be fueled. Magnesium will minimize the

oxidative stress on the cells. This stress can be one part of the autoimmune thyroid

issue.

d.

Unrefined Salt – The sodium in the salt binds with the bromide that is released by the

iodine and carries it out of the body through the kidneys. Unrefined salt contains over

80 minerals and is very supportive of the adrenal glands which can be stressed during

the detox process.

e.

Optional– ATP CoFactors (B2/B3) – You will see this recommended as a must have for

all individuals who are supplementing with iodine. This is not the case. I prefer to teach

individuals to start with the basic protocol. This will allow them to know what has

helped them on their journey to better health. Adding too many things at one time

does not allow the person to know if it helped them or not.

What do the ATP CoFactors do? These two nutrients are needed by the cells to

produce more H

2

O

2

to assist in the oxidation process of Iodine. It also stimulates the

NADPH pathway. This is where iodide is converted to iodine. This can be important to

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those who suffer from autoimmune conditions such as Hashimotos where the oxidation

process creates oxidative stress on the cells. (TPO Abs would be an example of oxidative

stress) It can also be considered for conditions like Fibromyalgia where the “energy

factories – ATP” are not functioning at optimum levels. Dr Abraham also determined

that ATP Cofactors could be beneficial in healing the organification process. (Tg Ab may

be an indication of this issue.) This is the binding of iodine to thyroglobulin in the

hormone creation process.

This supplement can be considered at the beginning for those struggling with these

conditions or the individual may wish to wait to see if they make progress with the basic

protocol alone in an effort to keep the cost of supplements down.

5.

When should I take my supplements? Do I need to space them

apart?

a.

Iodine should be taken with food. This seems to enhance absorption as well as

protecting sensitive stomachs from a potential upset especially with the liquid form.

b.

Some have expressed concern with combining Vitamin C and Iodine. This is because

when placed in a container together the color of iodine is removed which signifies a

change in chemistry. However, this has never been tested in the body. The stomach

environment is different than a glass container. If there is concern on your part, then

separate by 30 -60 mins. The tablet / capsule forms of Lugol’s formula should not cause

any concern when combining.

c.

All of the supporting nutrients can be taken with iodine and with food.

d.

Iodine should be taken earlier in the day (before 2 pm) because for some it increases

energy and wakes up the brain so much that they are unable to sleep.

6.

Does iodine destroy good bacteria?

No, you do not need to worry. Iodine functions as an adaptogen – meaning it “knows” what

does not belong and works to destroy the bad bacteria in the gut. It does not destroy the good

bacteria (probiotics). Remember, this is a natural element and not a drug. Anti-bacterial drugs

are broad spectrum in most cases and work by removing all bacteria whether it is good or bad.

This is why natural remedies are often the best option.

7.

How long should I take Iodine?

Dr. Abraham stated that it would take approximately 6 months of 50 mgs of supplementation to

reach 90% saturation. However, as more and more people have done the 24 hour loading test,

this is not what has actually occurred. It seems that this level is taking many years to obtain.

This depends on the exposure to halides

a.

Diet – are you consuming bromides in your food or drinking water with fluoride

b.

New consumer goods recently purchased – items like automobiles, carpets, electronics

and mattresses can be high in bromide which causes exposure.

Supplementing with iodine is a lifetime endeavor. You will not be able to get your

required iodine amounts from food our soil because it is depleted

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8.

Where can I buy non-liquid Lugol’s products?

I offer Lugol’s formula supplements on my website and a partner site. Selling iodine and

supporting health products allows me to continue to offer free assistance to the members of my

Iodine groups. Your purchase helps me to continue to do this. Thank you!

a.

www.steppingstonesliving.com/shop/ - This is my website. I offer a variety of iodine

products. Products include: LugoTabs, Iodoral, IodoRX, i-Throid, and Iodine Complex

as well as the supporting nutrients and other health related products. Your purchases

help me to continue to be able to support you on the Yahoo and Facebook groups free

of charge.

b.

http://www.cpmedical.net/steppingstonesliving/ - this is also a site affiliated with my

practice. It offers Iodoral and IodoRX and supporting nutrients. You may also be able

to have these items shipped to you internationally along with other health products.

9.

What is the Salt Loading Protocol?

This is not to be confused with salt supplementing.

Perform the salt loading protocol when you are experiencing detoxification symptoms

with iodine supplementation. This protocol was developed by Dr Shevin and shared at

the 2007 Iodine Conference.

**Note- You should not need to do this for more than 3 days. If your symptoms persist

then you need to consider reducing your dose of iodine.

1/2 tsp celtic (or other unrefined) salt in 1/2 cup of warm water

Follow the above with a glass of 12 oz filtered water.

** Repeat every 30-45 minutes as needed until urination begins.

Why does this help?

Salt - containing chloride - binds to the bromide in the blood stream and carries it out

through the kidneys.

10.

What are the sources of Bromide?

Over and over people come to the Iodine group claiming that they can’t possibly be toxic in

bromide because they are gluten free, eat a clean diet, etc. Guess what? It isn’t diet related in

most cases. Bromide is a flame retardant that is used in and on many items around you. These

include carpeting, furniture, mattresses, clothing, computers, iPhones, and automobiles – just to

name a few. Food sources can include items like baked goods that contain brominated flour or

vegetable oil as well as soft drinks like Mountain Dew and other citrus based sodas. It can also

be found in some Gatorade products. For many years it was used in the form of Methyl

Bromide as a pesticide on strawberries.

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11.

Validity of the Iodine Patch Test

You cannot consider that you are deficient or sufficient based on the patch test on the skin.

There are too many variables that change its absorption. It isn’t very scientific. Read the

following article by Dr. Abraham for more information

http://www.optimox.com/pics/Iodine/updates/UNIOD-02/UNIOD_02.htm

12.

My ferritin dropped while on Iodine.

This has been happening to some people taking 50 mgs or more of Iodoral. It has been rectified

by adding a B6 – Complex along with an iron supplement to help restore ferritin to normal

levels. It is thought to occur due to an increase in metabolic rate that requires more iron.

Sufficient ferritin levels (60-70) are needed to create and utilize thyroid hormones. Please note

that this is not something that happens to everyone so do not worry that it will happen to you.

The information is provided to share what might happen and what to do if it does.

13.

I am gaining weight since starting Iodine.

Unfortunately this can occur in those that are toxic and have sluggish detox pathways. If your

detoxification pathways are not able to eliminate the toxins being released by iodine then your

body will buffer them with water and fat. It may be due, in part, to lowered calcium levels as

well as magnesium, vit D, and B Vitamins. All work to maintain balance in the cells and

eliminate toxins. There are some detox products that can be viewed on my website here:

www.steppingstonesliving.com/shop/ under the category of Detoxification that can support

your body’s ability to detox.

14.

Iodine Supplementing & Mercury Filings

While iodine does seem to pull out some mercury from the cells / tissues of the body, there has

been no indication that it is dangerous to take iodine while amalgams remain in the body. If

there is any concern, supplements like cilantro, chlorella and alpha lipoic acid (ALA) can be used

to help bind and carry the mercury out of the body. Consulting with a good holistic / biological

dentist as well as a holistic medical doctor can help you to assess your toxicity level and assist

you in safe removal of amalgams and chelation.

15.

I have Hashimotos. Can I take Iodine?

Yes, Dr. Brownstein believes that low iodine is one the key causes in autoimmune thyroid

disease. The following is an excerpt from Dr. Brownstein’s Iodine book.

THE UNDERLYING CAUSE OF AUTOIMMUNE THYROID ILLNESSES:

IODINE DEFICIENCY AND ANTIOXIDANT DEFICIENCY

Chapter 7 described the apoptotic (i.e., anticancer) effects of the iodinated form of lactone (δ-

Iodolactone).

δ- Iodolactone is not only important for preventing cancer, its production is also necessary to help

regulate the oxidation of iodine. Figure 3 illustrates this regulatory step in the

oxidation/organification of iodine.

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As previously mentioned, the oxidation of iodide to iodine occurs through the interaction of H

2

O

2

and TPO. Iodine is a necessary product in order to provide the correct molecule in the cell so that

organification can occur. If organification does not take place or is blocked, thyroid hormone and

iodo-lipids will not be formed. As can be seen from Figure 3, this reaction is controlled by

intracellular calcium levels and iodinated lipids—

δ-iodolactone.

Intracellular calcium stimulates this pathway. On the other hand, δ-iodolactone and other iodinated

lipids act as a brake on the system. If there is not enough iodine in the cell to organify and produce

adequate amounts of δ-iodolactone, it can set the stage for damage to the thyroid cell and the

development of an autoimmune thyroid disorder such as Hashimoto’s or Graves’ disease.

A Proposed Mechanism for the Development of

Autoimmune Thyroid Disorders

The NADPH oxydase system is found in the mitochondria of our cells. The mitochondria are the

energy-producing cells of our body. The mitochondria produce energy (i.e., ATP) through a complex

process called oxidative phosphorylation. All medical students (and most physicians) are familiar

with oxidative phosphorylation because we have to memorize the many steps responsible for

producing ATP. This production of ATP requires many items including: oxygen, magnesium, ADP,

and amino acids.

Many people with chronic illnesses, such as fibromyalgia, chronic fatigue syndrome, and autoimmune

disorders, complain they have no energy. ATP is the molecule that stores energy for the body. The

body is constantly producing and utilizing ATP. Its production is a complex process that is beyond

this book. However, there are two cofactors, Vitamins B2 (riboflavin) and B3 (niacin), that are

integral to stimulating oxidative phosphorylation and ATP production.

Hydrogen peroxide is a byproduct of oxidative phosphorylation. It is this production of hydrogen

peroxide that is so critical to the oxidation process of iodine. Hydrogen peroxide and TPO help to

oxidize iodide to form iodine.

If there is a deficiency in iodine, which is common when ingesting the RDA for iodine, there will not

be enough substrate (i.e., iodine) to produce iodinated lipids. As can be seen from Figure 3, the lack

of δ-iodolactone and other iodinated lipids results in a loss of the ‘brake’ in the pathway to oxidize

iodide. This may result in a temporarily production of too much hydrogen peroxide. This excess

hydrogen peroxide can damage the enzyme TPO.

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What Happens If TPO Is Damaged? Autoimmune Thyroid Illness

The body’s response to TPO damage is to produce antibodies against TPO or anti-TPO antibodies. A

diagnosis of Hashimoto’s disease requires the presence of anti-TPO antibodies. As the damage

worsens, surrounding proteins can also be damaged such as thyroglobulin. Damaged thyroglobulin

will result in the body producing antibodies against thyroglobulin—anti-thyroglobulin antibodies.

In most cases of Hashimoto’s disease, there are antibodies to both TPO and thyroglobulin present.

Although Graves’ disease may also possess these same antibodies, antibody production is not

necessary to make the diagnosis of Graves’ disease. However, my clinical experience has shown that

the treatment for both Hashimoto’s and Graves’ disease can follow a similar course with similar

positive outcomes.

How to Treat Autoimmune Thyroid Disorders

1. Ingest enough iodine in order to provide adequate substrate to iodinate lipids.

2. Take Vitamins B2 (Riboflavin) and B3 (Niacin) in amounts necessary to stimulate the NADPH

system to produce adequate amounts of H

2

O

2

.

3. Correct oxidant stress in the thyroid gland and the mitochondria with antioxidants.

4. Ensure adequate magnesium levels.

5. Minimize oxidative stress in the body.

16.

Why does iodine work for Hashimotos?

There are many healthcare professionals that are warning of the terrible consequences for

those with Hashimotos who take high doses of iodine. But they are VERY wrong. The lack of

iodine is actually part of the reason as to why Hashimotos has occurred. Iodine is needed to

support the body in balancing this autoimmune condition. There are several things that you

need to look at and consider when listening to these doctors warnings.

a.

How much iodine do they discuss? In most cases they discuss microgram (mcg) or low

milligram (mg) dosing in the examples they site that had outcomes resulting in disaster.

Yes, this is exactly what may happen. In some individuals when given microgram

amounts you do “stoke the fire” and cause an increase in antibody attack on the thyroid

gland. That’s not what we teach.

b.

Where do they stop their discussion? In watching many videos and reading the articles

of the doctors sounding the alarm, they take iodine through the biological process in the

gland where iodine enters the cell and is oxidated from iodide to iodine and then they

exclaim – “See the oxidation creates inflammation and that increases antibodies.” Right

again! But there is one problem. The body’s process doesn’t stop there. When iodine

is supplied in levels OVER what is needed to create thyroid hormones there is a magical

substance that is created called iodolipids. These iodolipids are the regulatory factor on

the oxidation process. Iodolipids, when created, will put the brakes on the oxidative

process before it runs out of control and “burns” the cells creating an inflammatory

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response. The body sees inflammation / abnormal cells and creates and antibody attack

against them as a natural response. The key is to stop this from occurring.

c.

Where they go wrong. Dr Brownstein has written about this in his book Iodine Why you

Need it Why You Can’t Live Without It. He has determined that when iodine is supplied

in amounts 100x the RDA of 150 mcg (or 15 mgs) that the body will begin to create

these iodolipids. So you can see that giving microgram amounts causes a big issue for

those with Hashimotos. In this case the mantra of “low and slow” can actually create a

bigger issue. This causes many to give up on iodine because their condition seems to

worsen. So the next time you see a doctor or listen to one that discusses the dangers of

high doses of iodine for Hashimotos ask them…. “What about the iodolipids?”

17.

My TSH went up on Iodine.

This is a common occurrence when a person starts to take iodine after being deficient. The

body increases TSH to stimulate production of thyroglobulin which is used to bind to the iodine

in thyroid hormone production. TSH is also the method the body uses to stimulate the NIS

(sodium iodine symporters) to take iodine into the cells. Individuals can have TSH levels as high

as 75 for up to 6 months without clinical signs of hypothyroidism. To monitor your thyroid

“health” accurately, labs that check the Free T3 and Free T4 should be run. You will find in most

cases that the “frees” are nicely within the ranges while the TSH remains high.

18.

I have adrenal fatigue. Can I take Iodine?

Yes, Iodine is used by every gland and mucosal lining and is needed to heal the adrenals. You

should also use unrefined salt to support them as well as Vitamin C. Other products such as

ashwaganda, licorice root, rhodiola, and adrenal glandulars can help to support the adrenals. In

severe conditions a doctor can prescribe hydrocortisone (HC) to replace the body’s deficiency.

19.

I have breast cancer and would like to learn more about using Iodine.

The best resources for learning about breast cancer and iodine is the book by Dr. David Derry. It

is called Breast Cancer and Iodine: How to Prevent and How to Survive Breast Cancer. Dr

Brownstein’s Iodine book also contains valuable information.

20.

Bromide Toxicity and Iodine Loading Test.

As the years go by, members of the group have been testing relatively high in their saturation

levels with the Iodine loading tests. This is usually met with jubilation that they are at a good

level. But wait! This isn’t a place to stop. A bromide level test should be added to the loading

test. It is highly recommended because it gives a clearer picture of what the TRUE status of the

saturation level is. As a general rule if you see a higher saturation level (80% or above) with a

bromide level over 5 mgs/L (the upper limit of normal per Dr. Guy Abraham) you are bromide

toxic and the receptors that would normally be able to pull iodine into the cells cannot because

bromide is blocking the receptors. Because they are blocked, it would result in a high level of

iodine being eliminated in the urine indicating (falsely) that you are more saturated than you

are. Persons with results such as these should consider supplementing with Lugol’s formula

(liquid or tablet) in doses of 50 mgs or more for 6 mos to 1 year and then retest with the 24 hour

Iodine Loading and Bromide level test to see what the new levels are.

Another reason for a false high reading in saturation levels is due to defects in the symporters of

the cells. Symporters are the “pumps” that pull iodine into the cells. Dr. Abraham addresses

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this on his website at http://www.optimox.com/pics/Iodine/IOD-11/IOD_11.htm which suggests

the usage of Vitamin C to heal symporters.

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Ordering a 24 hour Iodine Loading Test with Bromide Levels.

It is recommended that you order both the 24 hour loading and bromide level test. We

recommend this because you may obtain a high saturation level and believe that your levels are

fine when in fact bromide toxicity will block the iodine receptors not allowing iodine to enter the

cell which results in an elimination of iodine when it is needed / deficient thus skewing the test

results.

The following list is a compilation of resources for obtaining the Iodine loading test.

Hakala Research

885 Parfet Street Unit E

Lakewood, CO 80215

877.238.1779

*** It is not recommended that you do the spot test as this is only an indicator of how much

iodine is in the diet and the amount that has been ingested in the last 24 – 48 hours. It offers

no real value to determining the body saturation level. The two asterisk items are the

recommended tests.

** Iodine Loading Kit Only $70

Iodine Spot Level Kit Only $70

Iodine Spot and Loading Kit $95

** Bromide Level Testing (must be combined with one of the above kits) $35

Test prices do not include return shipping.

They now also offer iodine serum/saliva testing to check for Organification / Oxidation issues

as well as symporter defects. The test is available two ways:

1. 24 hour Iodine loading test plus the serum saliva ratio cost: $155.00.

2. Serum saliva ratio without the urine test cost: $110.00.

The serum/saliva ratio gives the degree of usage of iodine within the cell, if the ratio is

below normal this signifies a symporter defect (NIS) while a higher than normal ratio

points to an organification problem.

According to Dr. Abrahams articles the symporter can be repaired using 3 gm of slow

release Vitamin C per day, the organification issue responds to ATP CoFactors

(Riboflavin 100mg + NoFlush Niacin 500mg) twice daily.

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FFP Labs

Dr. Jorg Flechas MD

80 Doctors Drive Ste 3

Hendersonville, NC 28792

(1-877-900-5556)

The cost of this test is $80.

If it is not ordered by a physician you must tell them you are ordering it on your own

and they will assign you to a nurse practitioner. When you get the results of this test

you can receive a free consultation with Dr. Flechas.

You may also obtain a urine spot test for an additional $30 for a total of $110 for both tests.

Spot / Loading / Bromide test can be obtained for $230

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Doctors Data

** This lab does not seem to report in the manner that is described in Dr. Abraham’s research

so it is difficult to determine true saturation and bromide levels.

Pre and post loading - requires an ordering physician.

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ZRT Laboratories (No on this one)

This test is not performed in the manner outlined by Dr. Abraham, Dr Brownstein or Dr. Flechas

and which has been used effectively since the 1990s. It has not been proven to correlate with the

health conditions of those with iodine deficiency and does not offer a bromide level test which is

critical in determining how accurate the saturation level is. At this point the Iodine group does

not recommend this test.

22.

Recommended Reading.

Many of the questions asked over and over are covered in these reference materials. Please

familiarize yourself with them to help with limiting the repetition of information on the group.

The Brownstein books can be purchased on my website at

www.steppingstonesliving.com/shop/

a.

Dr David Brownstein – Iodine Why You Need It, Why You Can’t Live Without it

b.

Dr. David Brownstein – Salt Your Way To Health

c.

Dr. David Derry – Breast Cancer and Iodine: How to Prevent and How to Survive Breast

Cancer http://www.thyroidscience.com/reviews/derry/derry.9.19.09.htm

d.

www.optimox.com - Research by Dr. Guy Abraham – the founder of The Iodine Project

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23.

Detoxification

Your body’s ability to detoxify chemicals and other toxins from the body is one of the most

critical functions in obtaining optimum health. Without the elimination of toxins the entire body

will struggle to operate. When your body is bogged down it will work hard to protect you at all

costs from these toxins while compromising other functions such as hormone balance, blood

sugar control, skin tone and mental clarity, energy and even things like fertility.

Supporting the Detox Pathways

How does the body detox?

1.

Skin

2.

Lymphatic System

3.

Liver

4.

Kidney

5.

Intestinal System

The liver performs a 2 phase detoxification process:

Phase 1 – This phase consists of oxidation reduction and hydrolysis. Simply put it takes a toxic

chemical and turns it into a non-toxic one.

Phase 2 – This pathway is called the conjugation pathway where the liver cells add another

substance (like cysteine, glycine or a sulphur molecule) to a chemical that is toxic to the body

that renders it less harmful. This makes the toxin water soluble so that it can be excreted easily

from the body through the water containing fluids like bile or urine.

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The following chart outlines the nutrients required by each phase to function at optimum levels

as well as some supporting nutrients to assist the process.

Phase 1

Phase 2

Vitamin B2, B3, B6 and B12

Vitamin B5, B12

Folic Acid (L-5- Methyltetrahyrofolate

better form – especially for MTHFR

defect)

Folic Acid (L-5- Methyltetrahyrofolate

better form – especially for MTHFR

defect)

Glutathione

Magnesium

Citrus Bioflavonoids

Gluthathione

Vitamin A

Methionine

Vitamin C

Vitamin C

Calcium

Choline

Vitamin D3

Taurine

Vitamin E

Cysteine

Milk Thistle

Calcium d-glucorate

N-acetyl Cysteine

Amino Acids:

Quercetin

L-Carnitine

L-Glutamine

L-Lysine

Glycine

Taurine

Cruciferous vegetables (sulfur

metabolites)

MSM

N-acetyl Cysteine

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Liver Detoxification Process

Toxins (Fat Soluble)

Phase 1 Detox Pathway

Phase 2 Detox Pathway

Waste Products Eliminated from the body via:

(Water Soluble)

Gall Bladder

Kidneys

Bile

Urine

Intestines

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Digestive Toxin Elimination

The Digestive system is equipped to detox fat soluble toxins from the body if functioning properly.

During the fat digestive process, bile is released from the liver. This bile can also contain the conjugated

toxins from the Phase 2 liver process.

In order for the liver to function properly and produce enough bile, adequate protein is essential. Amino

acids are critical for phase I and 2 liver detoxification. L-Taurine is essential for bile formation. Cysteine

is the precursor to the antioxidant Glutathione. Glutathione cleans up free radicals and toxins that end

up in the bile that is excreted to the intestines. Hydration is critical during this process because 85% of

the bile is made of water. The nutrient Betaine (trimethylglycine) is a powerful liver detoxifier. Betain

can be found in the highest concentrations in beets and beet greens.

The bile that is excreted during digestion breaks up the fat into tiny pieces. These pieces then enter the

intestinal tract where villi on the wall of the intestines (sweeping back and forth) pick up the particles

with the toxins and pull them off the wall and through the intestinal lining into the gut associated

lymphatic tissue. These villi also pull off good fats as well (nutrients). If the bile is not adequate from

the liver then these fat soluble toxins will not be broken down adequately.

Gut associated lymphatic tissue on the outside of the intestinal tract is approximately ¼ inch in size. Fat

soluble chemicals are pulled through the villi into this tissue and attacked by the white blood cells of the

lymphatic system where they are processed by over 500 lymph nodes and neutralized for the body to

detoxify and carry them out.

If you have a sluggish lymphatic system or congestion issues it will be presented in things like allergies,

belly fat, itchiness, fatigue, headaches, cellulite, and breast swelling and tenderness.

The integrity of the villi is important. If you have chronic stress, constipation, or irritation of the bowel a

reactive mucous may form which cause the villi to stick to the wall of the intestines thus inhibiting it

from absorbing not only the toxins but also the fat soluble nutrition.

When the malabsorption occurs, then toxins will move on to the large intestines. The bile will hook up

to the chemicals and pull them back into the liver. 90% of the bile gets reabsorbed into the liver. The

liver becomes overwhelmed and congested. The bile then becomes thick and doesn’t flow as well.

Which means that you won’t have enough bile to detoxify the fats that come through the next time.

If the liver becomes too congested, it will send the fats back out into the blood stream. The blood

stream will look for fatty tissues to store them in and they will go into the fat cells. (Pathway: Liver to

Blood to Fat Cells) The most common fat cells that they find are in our brain. As we age and become

more toxic we lose memory, cognitive function and clarity. This is due to toxic fat soluble build up in the

brain.

The key to detoxification is to optimize digestion.

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Fat soluble toxins – heavy metals, parasites, pesticides, bad bacteria and other cancer causing

chemicals.

Indicators of an issue –

1.

Blood sugar imbalance

2.

GERD / acid reflux

3.

Allergies

4.

Skin issues

5.

Hormone imbalance

6.

Mucous in stools

7.

Constipation

8.

Loose stools

9.

Belly fat storage

10. Feeling nauseated after a meal (especially high in fat)

FIBER - Another issue with “re-poisoning” of the body is low fiber diets. If we don’t eat enough soluble

fiber, our bile is repeatedly circulated instead of being ushered out of the body (toxins and all). Over

time it becomes very concentrated with toxins which can lead to inflammation, gall bladder disease,

intestinal inflammation, skin issues – like acne, eczema and psoriasis. Remember that the inflammation

of the intestines creases the mucosa that causes the villi to get stuck to the wall and not absorb the fats

into the outer layer for detoxification. This also makes you nutrient deficient due to malabsorption.

Cellular toxicity

The cellular wall is made of lipids and proteins. Because of this lipid soluble compounds are able to pass

freely into it gaining free access to the cellular interior. This is where it becomes much more difficult to

remove the toxins. It is best to keep the toxins moving out (as described above) than to allow them to

be stored because of a congested detoxification system.

Blood acidity is one of the biggest hindrances to detoxifying the cells. Acidity can come from the foods

we eat, beverages we drink as well as low levels of oxygen content. We need to keep our body in an

alkaline state to assist with detoxification.

Some strategies to alkalize the body:

1.

Start your morning with clean filtered water with lemon juice. Drink ½ your weight in ounces

throughout the day (150 lb person would drink 75 oz)

2.

Eat foods rich in alkalizing minerals

3.

Consume unrefined salt rich in minerals

4.

Snack on raw almonds. These are rich in magnesium and calcium which helps to maintain

alkalinity in the body.

5.

Eat less red meat. This can have an acidic effect on the body

6.

Increase the number of vegetables in your diet.

7.

Take deep breaths. Many people take shallow breaths. Concentrate on filling your lungs with

oxygen several times to increase oxygen in the blood stream.

8.

Exercise – This is one of the best ways to increase oxygen, get the lymphatic system moving and

increase toxin elimination.

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24.

Importance of Healthy Gut Flora

Another culprit in the detoxification arena is the importance of healthy gut flora. The

gastrointestinal tract is approximately 25 feet long. Within this intestinal tract are friendly

bacteria and not so friendly bacteria. When the unfriendly bacteria become the dominant force,

trouble occurs. This is called gut dysbiosis.

The gut has three primary functions:

Digestion of foods & converstion to vitamins

Absorption of nutrients

Prevention of pathogens and toxins from entering the body

There are approximately 500 species of bacteria along with yeast and other organisms in the

gastrointestinal tract. These items are what make up the gut flora. The friendly bacteria are

vital for proper digestion and for maintaining the overall health of the intestines. Most of these

bacterial have names that begin with “Lactobacillus” or “Bifidobacteria”. These are the classes

of bacteria that they belong to.

Disruption of the balance of the organisms in the intestinal tract can lead to an overgrowth of

the bad forms of bacteria. Several factors can be indicated in this degradation.

Use of hormones such as immunosuppresssants (like steroids)

Alcohol

Stress

Antibiotic usage (abuse of)

Diet high in sugar and refined carbohydrates.

The dysbiosis of the gut can often be seen in medical conditions such as acne, food allergies,

depression, and chronic fatigue. A beneficial balance of the good bacteria can be restored

through supplementation of prebiotics and probiotics. If left untreated, the dysbiosis will result

in leaky gut syndrome which causes the lining of the bowel to increase permeability of the

intestines allowing toxins to pass through to the blood stream.

Healthy gut bacteria has an important role. It is responsible for synthesizing all the B Vitamins

along with Vitamin K and amino acids. These bacteria also “grab” toxic chemicals, heavy metals,

and carcinogenic environmental toxins. It either holds on to the toxins and is eliminated

through the colon or neutralizes it. It stops the toxins from passing back into the blood stream.

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Detox Strategies

Saunas - Infrared Saunas can be a beneficial tool to the detoxification process. Since the skin is

the largest detoxification organ it is a great way to remove them. This also improves circulation,

increases oxygenation and helps to eliminate congestion.

Dry Brushing – This can help to boost circulation and stimulate the lymphatic system to release

toxins. It also helps to remove dead skin that can clog pores where toxins can be released.

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Using a natural brush, gently brush in a circular movement towards the heart. Start at the soles

of your feet working up your legs and then move to your hands and arms. Brush your back from

your buttocks up and around to the stomach. Brush the stomach area with a counter clockwise

motion.

Detox Baths – Detox baths can be beneficial especially when dealing with skin breakouts. Add

the following items to very warm water and soak for 20 mins. Double the recipe for a large tub.

These baths can be taken several times a week.

1 Cup Epsom Salts or Dead Sea Salt

1 Cup Hydrogen Peroxide

½ Cup Baking Soda

28 Day Food Elimination and Detoxification – Metagenics offers a 28 day detox program that I

used when fighting cancer. I completed one 28 day cycle before my last round of radioactive

iodine and then again after I received my last treatment. It is not an easy task to perform but I

will testify that it is worth it. I felt better than I had in years. My joint pain was relieved, brain

fog lifted and I even lost weight. This protocol involves the usage of 3 canisters of the product

and a strict dietary program. During this time you will eliminate foods that can be inflammatory

or an allergen for many and then they are slowly added back after the program is complete.

This allows you to adequately evaluate what may be causing issues with your body.

Milk Thistle – Studies have shown that milk thistle can help to protect and promote the growth

of liver cells. It helps to fight oxidation which protects the cells from damage. In 16 trials by the

NIH they also concluded that the supplement helped to protect the liver through antioxidant

activity, enhanced protein synthesis, and toxic blockade at the membrane level that inhibits

membrane peroxidation. Milk thistle helps to slow the depletion of glutathione which is

important for the phase 2 detoxification process in the liver.

Dandelion Root Extract – The root of this plant can act as a mild laxative. It has also been

known to improve digestion. Preliminary research suggest that dandelion may help to improve

the function of the liver and gallbladder. In folk medicine it is used as a liver stimulant and tonic.

The University of Maryland Medical Center has indicated that dandelion root may boost the

production of beneficial bacteria in the intestines.

Yellow Dock – In traditional medicine yellow dock has been thought to be a blood purifier and

detoxifier of the liver. Yellow dock stimulates bile production which aids in digestion. It is

effective in preventing toxins from entering the gallbladder, bloodstream and liver.

Lymphomyosot – This is a homeopathic formula from HEEL that is used to support the

lymphatic, immune and circulatory systems. The formula contains homeopathically prepared

herbs that are intended to promote lymphatic health by reducing swelling from poor circulation

and environmental toxins. Assists in normal detoxification. May support lymphatic function.

May support circulation.

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26.

Final thoughts as it relates to Iodine Supplementing Detox…..

One of the blessings and a curse of iodine supplementing is that toxins are released in the body.

It is a blessing because bromide, fluoride, mercury and lead are released from the cells so that

the healing can begin. But the curse comes from the large amount of toxins being released

which in most cases, cannot be eliminated quickly and effectively. The average person has no

idea just how toxic they become. By the time illness sets in, the toxicity is more than likely very

high. There are some who begin iodine supplementing and feel no detoxing effects while others

have terrible side effects that are triggered by just a small amount of supplementing. Still more

experience weight gain. I believe that the information in this document holds the key to this

issue and offers options for dealing with it.

If you are going to embark on an iodine supplementing protocol it would be a prudent to assess

your current toxicity status. Do you have any of the symptoms that were listed previously that

may indicate a congested detoxification system? If yes, then it may be best to undergo a detox

program prior to beginning iodine. A few weeks of concentrated support with the purpose of

increasing bile, cleaning up the diet and cleansing the body will offer a better start to your

journey.

If you are experiencing detoxing while supplementing, the strategies listed previously can help

to lessen the severity of the process. Intermittent supplementing (taking iodine a few days on

with a few days off) is a strategy that I used when toxic and detoxing faster than my body could

handle. During this time you continue to take the supporting nutrients outlined in the Guide to

Supplementing while taking a break from iodine. The Salt Loading protocol can also help to

move bromide out of the body more quickly and effectively so that it is not recirculated and

stored in the body.

The saying “No pain no gain” is not something you want to strive for. The goal is to

supplementing with enough iodine to release toxins while not releasing too quickly so that it

stresses the body and overloads the detox pathways. A steady low level detox that is well

supported will get you to your destination – abundant health.

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27.

INDEX

Adrenal fatigue................................................. 11

Antibodies ........................................................ 10

Atomidine iodine................ See Detoxified iodine

ATP ................................................................. 6, 9

ATP CoFactors

as optional supporting nutrient .................... 4

physiology ...................................................... 9

Autoimmune thyroid diseases

mechanism causing ........................................ 9

treatment of ................................................. 10

underlying cause ............................................ 8

Breast cancer ................................................... 11

Bromide testing

in combination with iodine loading test ...... 11

ordering .................................................. 12, 13

second testing .............................................. 11

Bromides ......................... See also Detoxification

and the iodine loading test .......................... 11

bombarding our systems ............................... 4

normal levels of ............................................ 11

sources of ....................................................... 7

Calcium, weight gain and ................................... 8

Cancer

breast cancer................................................ 11

how much iodine to take ............................... 4

Celtic sea salt......................... See Salt, unrefined

Chelation, mercury amalgam fillings and .......... 8

Children Supporting Nutrients ........................... 4

Children, how much iodine to take .................... 4

Chlorine, as halide, bombarding our systems .... 4

Companion nutrients ... See Supporting nutrients

required

Dental mercury amalgam fillings ....................... 8

Detoxification

forms of iodine not producing ....................... 3

symptoms of, salt loading protocol to

alleviate ...................................................... 7

Detoxified iodine

amount of iodine in ........................................ 3

for children under 3 years .............................. 4

Digestive tract health ......................................... 6

Doctors Data (laboratory) ................................ 13

Ferritin levels dropping ...................................... 8

FFP Labs ............................................................ 13

Flame retardants, as source of bromides .......... 7

Fluoride, as halide, bombarding our systems .... 4

Food

as source of bromides.................................... 7

probiotics and iodine ..................................... 6

taking supplements with ............................... 6

Forms of iodine .................................................. 3

Free T3, and rise in TSH ................................... 11

Free T4, and rise in TSH ................................... 11

Good bacteria, and iodine ................................. 6

Graves' disease

antibodies and ............................................. 10

treatment of ................................................ 10

underlying cause of........................................ 9

Gut health and iodine ........................................ 6

Hakala Research (laboratory) .......................... 12

Halides ........... See also Bromides; Detoxification

list of types of ................................................ 4

Hashimoto's disease .......................................... 8

cause underlying ............................................ 8

mechanism causing ....................................... 9

treatment of ................................................ 10

How much iodine to take

cancer ............................................................ 4

children .......................................................... 4

maintenance .................................................. 3

with false saturation results ........................ 11

Iodinated lipids .................................................. 9

Iodine

dosage ...............

See How much iodine to take

forms of ......................................................... 3

saturation with ......

See Saturation with iodine

testing .......................

See Iodine Loading Test

when to take .................................................. 6

Iodine Loading Test

and bromides, effect on results of .............. 11

ordered with Bromide Levels Test ............... 12

ordering ....................................................... 12

second testing, time for ............................... 11

Iodine Spot Test ............................................... 12

Iodoral

how much to take .......................................... 3

where to buy .................................................. 7

Lugol's liquid iodine

how much to take .......................................... 3

Magnascent iodine ............ See Detoxified iodine

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Magnesium

as supporting nutrient, amount to take ........ 4

weight gain and .............................................. 8

Mercury

amalgam fillings in teeth ................................ 8

bombarding our systems ............................... 4

Nascent iodine .................. See Detoxified iodine

Niacin

as optional ...................................................... 6

in treatment of autoimmune thyroid diseases

................................................................. 10

no-flush, amount to take ............................. 12

physiology and ............................................... 9

Oxidation/organification of iodine

ATP CoFactors to treat ................................. 12

physiology ...................................................... 8

test to check function of .............................. 12

Phosphorylation ................................................. 9

Pregnancy / Lactation ........................................ 3

Probiotics and iodine ......................................... 6

Resources

cancer and iodine ........................................... 4

Dr. David Brownstein books ......................... 13

Dr. David Derry article .................................. 13

Dr. Guy Abraham articles (Optimox site) ..... 13

skin patch test ................................................ 8

where to buy Iodoral ..................................... 7

Riboflavin

amount to take ............................................ 12

as optional ...................................................... 6

in treatment of autoimmune thyroid diseases

................................................................. 10

physiology and ............................................... 9

Salt loading protocol .......................................... 7

Salt, unrefined

adrenal fatigue and ...................................... 11

as supporting nutrient, amount to take ........ 4

function in body ......................................... 4, 7

in salt loading protocol .................................. 7

Saturation with iodine

and false readings ........................................ 11

Detoxified iodine not providing ..................... 3

Selenium

and cancer ..................................................... 4

as supporting nutrient ................................... 4

Supporting nutrients required

amounts and functions .................................. 4

when to take .................................................. 6

Symporter defects

and false high reading in saturation levels .. 11

test for ......................................................... 12

Vitamin C in treatment of ............................ 12

T3, free .............................................. See Free T4

T4, free .............................................. See Free T4

Thyroglobulin ............................................. 10, 11

Thyroid hormones

ferritin in production of ................................. 8

iodine in production of ............................ 9, 11

selenium in production of ............................. 4

TSH rising and .............................................. 11

Time

for second round of testing ......................... 11

of day, to take supplements .......................... 6

TPO .................................................................... 9

TSH rise, following iodine supplementation .... 11

Vitamin B group, and weight gain ..................... 8

Vitamin B2 .................................... See Riboflavin

Vitamin B3 ..........................................

See Niacin

Vitamin C

adrenal fatigue and ...................................... 11

as supporting nutrient ................................... 4

symporter defects healing with ................... 12

Vitamin D ........................................................... 8

Weight gain ........................................................ 8

ZRT Laboratories .............................................. 13

Tuesday, July 19, 2022

The West's Debt to China?

 Rescued from the wayback machine:

https://web.archive.org/web/20090523205946/http://www.computersmiths.com/chineseinvention/westdebt.htm


Randy Smith - Monterey Peninsula College

As scholars and citizens of the world understand more of the inter-relationships of cultures, we gain an appreciation of the evolution of civilization as a cross-fertilization of many cultures over the few thousand years of recorded history. I am intrigued about the process of sharing of information and discovery among societies, often separated by distance, language and value systems. As we discover the remarkable advances in science and technology in ancient China, we immediately attempt to make connections in information transfer to other parts of the world. How much discovery was shared with the West, or were similar discoveries independent? Perhaps the circumstances of early discovery and invention in China do not constitute a debt, since so many inventions were not widely used, transferred, or used as a basis for additional discovery. However, it is instructive to note the early Chinese advancement in so many fields. Other directions that should be explored include questions about why the early Chinese technology so often died out. Why indeed did progress stall at about the time when Western civilization was awakening from their Dark Ages?

Information in the form of invention and discovery is often shared (or incorporated) due to the nature of the perceived value to others. Technology exchange can begin any time new ideas are demonstrated, and of course no records exist for the vast number of interactions of civilizations over the centuries. Marco Polo's travels to China in the 13th century offered Western society a look at undiscovered (to them) goods and ideas. Ideas and inventions often were added to the "native" culture with little notice of the origination. One of the greatest secrets of history is the immense contribution of Chinese society to the Western world. Equally interesting, is the failure of some discovery in China to cross over to Western civilization, or even to survive into modern times. For example, a small pox vaccination was used in China in the 10th century, and then 800 years later in the West. However, the practice of modern diagnostic medicine was not widespread in China in more modern times. The mechanical clock was invented in China in the 8th century, and then independently in Europe in 1310. When the Chinese imperial court was shown a mechanical clock by Jesuit missionaries in the 17th century, the scholars were awestruck.

It seems that much of Western and Eastern knowledge of Chinese contributions have either been forgotten or overlooked. The Encyclopedia Britannica, 1999, describes in the history of the magnetic compass, that the Chinese were using the magnetic compass around AD 1100, western Europeans by 1187, Arabs by 1220, and Scandinavians by 1300. But we know that Chinese ships reached the east coast of India prior to 1000 with help of the navigational compass.

Early in 2003, a fascinating speculative chronicle on Chinese discovery ( 1421: The Year China Discovered America) was released by the British author/historian/mariner Gavin Menzies, detailing evidence for Chinese exploration of the globe. The voyages of the massive fleet of the explorer Zheng He, sailing west from China in the fifteenth century is a fascinating story. The author speculates and makes a strong case for Chinese exploration succeeding well beyond what is commonly taught World History (and unfortunately this important Asian history is often completely overlooked). Circumstances and artifacts in several locales serve to support Menzies' case, but much more scrutiny of facts in evidence will be required to validate some of his assertions. However the value in critically examining new ideas expands our understanding, and should not be interpreted as glorification of a specific culture, degrading another, or as gratuitous inclusion of some minority position.

As so much of Chinese history and culture have been buried by the centuries and purged by tyrants, arguments for history are developed by research and conjecture almost totally dependent on circumstantial evidence. My own interpretations of some of this history is presented with a desire to stimulate interest in not only the events and accomplishments, but also the process of using knowledge gained to better the current and future world. Knowledge can be a laudable achievement in its own right, and the application for technology to enhance life quality is often the next step to benefit civilization. I am interested here in what was achieved, how it was used, what was transferred to other cultures, and why sometimes the early discoveries did not lead to even more achievement.

It really is more accurate to think of accumulation of knowledge of history and culture to be a synthesis of East and West. Combined in an all-pervading fusion of beliefs and understanding, often masked by ignorance and language, we try to explain ideas and culture in terms of the familiar. For example, when examining novel inventions, it is not prudent to assume that this demonstrated technology is a byproduct of applied science. In fact science may be missing in the "discovery" process. Design and production trumped controlled experimentation, theoretical study, and scientific processes. Such often was the case with some of the early Chinese inventions. It seems that they often "knew" a lot more than they understood. The scientific method, and necessary steps for validation of theories with observations was seldom employed. Historically, China's approach to applied science followed the utilitarian view of technology development.

Throughout history, dynasties in China have arisen to set contemporary standards in terms of military might, population unification, and accomplishments in technology, arts and literature. However, the world-wide influence has often been minimized due to policies of self-imposed isolation. Inventions and discovery should contribute to the well-being of humanity, but historically in China they have been guarded, inaccessible, and purged at the whim of leaders. Jia Hepeng writing in the online publication Science and Development Network makes a case that China's innovation system is not fully developed and inadequately integrated. He describes the system as an "archipelago", a large number of "innovative islands" with insufficient links between them. Unfortuanately, the collective behavior of modern China too closely matches their history. Optimistically, we look forward to successful innovation in modern China that is used to improve conditions globally.

This publication of some of the contributions of China for invention and discovery is an on-going hobby of research into documents that will help to uncover some of these historical mysteries. Much of the ideas and contributions have been taken from the works of Joseph Needham, begun in Cambridge in 1948, and published in many volumes of Science and Civilisation in China (1954-1985). I have cited numerous passages from Robert Temple's The Genius of China - 3,000 years of science, discovery and invention (1986, Simon and Schuster). The timeline is constructed to help us to develop relations and connections of history that can help reach an understanding of how knowledge has been gained, and sometimes lost. Needham's original texts were not available to me for this rather cursory survey, and I often relied on Temple's interpretations, which are sometimes lacking in supporting facts. However, the examples of Chinese Scientism and statements of later Western implementation will hopefully serve as a discussion point for a more detailed query into the connections of ideas leading to worldwide technology. Consider Needham's and Temple's list of discoveries and inventions by categories below, that have contributed so much to world societies.

Agricultural

  • Row Cultivation of crops and intensive hoeing
  • The Iron Plow
  • Efficient Horse Harness - trace; collar
  • The Rotary Winnowing Fan
  • The multi-tube ('modern') seed drill

Astronomy & Cartography

  • Recognition of sunspots as solar phenomena
  • Quantitative cartography
  • Discovery of the Solar Wind
  • The Mercator map-projection
  • (Mounted) Equatorial astronomical instruments

Engineering

  • Spouting bowls and standing waves
  • Cast iron
  • The double-acting piston bellows: air, liquid
  • The Crank handle
  • The 'Cardan suspension', or gimbals
  • Manufacture of steel from cast iron
  • Deep drilling for natural gas
  • The belt drive (or driving-belt)
  • Water Power
  • The chain pump
  • The Suspension Bridge
  • The first cybernetic machine
  • Essentials of the steam engine
  • 'Magic Mirrors'
  • The 'Siemens' steel process
  • The segmental arch bridge
  • The chain-drive
  • Underwater salvage operations

Domestic & Industrial Technology

Medicine & Health

  • Circulation of the blood
  • Circadian rhythms in the human body
  • The science of endocrinology
  • Deficiency diseases
  • Diabetes discovered by urine analysis
  • Use of thyroid hormone
  • Immunology - inoculation against smallpox

Mathematics

  • The decimal system
  • A place for 0
  • Negative numbers
  • Extraction of higher roots and solutions of higher numerical equations
  • Decimal fractions
  • Using algebra in geometry
  • A refined value of pi
  • 'Pascal's' triangle of binomial coefficients

Magnetism

  • The first compass
  • Dial and pointer devices
  • Magnetic declination of the Earth's magnetic field
  • Magnetic remanence and induction

The Physical Sciences

  • Geobotanical prospecting
  • The First Law of Motion
  • The hexagonal structure of snowflakes
  • The seismograph
  • Spontaneous combustion
  • 'Modern' geology
  • Phosphorescent paint

Transport & Exploration

  • The kite
  • Manned flight with kites
  • The first relief maps
  • The first contour transport canal
  • The parachute
  • Miniature hot-air balloons
  • The rudder
  • Masts and sailing: Batten sails - staggered masts; Multiple masts - Fore and aft rigs; Leeboards; Watertight compartments in ships
  • The helicopter rotor and the propeller
  • The paddlewheel boat
  • Land sailing
  • The canal pound-lock

Sound & Music

  • The large tuned bell
  • Tuned drums
  • Hermetically sealed research laboratories
  • The first understanding of musical timbre
  • Equal temperament in music

Warfare

  • Chemical warfare: poison gas, smoke bombs and tear gas
  • The crossbow
  • Gunpowder
  • The flame-thrower
  • Flares and fireworks
  • Soft bombs and grenades
  • Metal-cased bombs
  • Land mines
  • Sea mines
  • The rocket
  • Mutli-staged rockets
  • Guns, cannons, and mortars - fire lance; true gun

Sources:
Robert Temple , "The Genius of China: 3,000 Years of Science, Discovery and Invention"
Joseph Needham , "Science and Civilisation in China"
Bibliography used for this research

I do not intend this site to be a blind testimonial to some supremacist view of Eastern technology. I am aware that Needham and Temple are often overly enthusiastic regarding their views of Chinese achievements pre-dating some of the West. Often the "discovery" was only an implementation of some aspect of technology with little or no development of the science. Some questions that I would like to explore include:

What were the major factors that turned the advanced civilization (on a large scale) of China two thousand years ago, into the more comparatively undeveloped status of today?
Why were some of the major discoveries of China not refined and advanced to accelerate into more and more technological achievements?
Did the absence of a period of Dark Ages, and subsequent Renaissance serve to inhibit fast dissemination of achievements?
What part did politics, ethics, religion, international conflict, etc., play on the advancement of technology from discovery to national service?

This site will be used to develop and integrate my impressions with others, and hopefully will serve as a collaboration for readers to share our own ideas. For an interesting analytical discussion of some perceptions of influences in the West and the East, check out THE GREAT DIVERGENCE: EUROPE, CHINA, AND THE MAKING OF THE MODERN WORLD ECONOMY by Kenneth Pomeranz, Princeton: Princeton University Press 2000. A review may be found on the Communications for a Sustainable Future site in an article by A.G. Frank.

A site of great interest from the Center for the Study of Chinese Prehistory explores the fossil evidence for human evolution in China.